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MahmudHenry - Dec 12, 2005 - 05:34 PM
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I just got the E-mail 
Hey all!
L@@K! New years eve party at Loudwater Farm. Everybody is very welcome, we will have a fun filled evening raising money for those that are stuck in remote parts of Pakistan in a bitterly cold winter with inadequate shelter, clothing and food. Please come and support a really good cause. We are not charging you to get in, but we will ask for money for the delicious Mexican food and drinks that will be provided. We will also have a collection and an auction.
For the auction please bring your unwanted christmas gifts to sell. Of course they don't have to be unwanted gifts, just a good saleable item that you think somebody may want; think live ebaying!
Please, please, please help us to organise this by letting Elias know if you are coming so we can prepare enough food and book your sleeping space (floor or bed). We are looking forward to seeing you there, digging deep into your pockets. Last year's party raised a fantastic £1000 for the tsunami victims, lets see if we can do even better this year for those suffering in Pakistan. Lots of love,
SYA - Louise and Elias
SICA - Lucas and Amanda
I wonder if a bonfire and marsh mellows could also be arranged? 
HarunKennedy - Dec 13, 2005 - 09:39 AM
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I'm sending an article to the [Subud Britain] Journal today ....
Here are Elias' details:
eliasbate@gmail.com
......And yes, marshmellows will definitely be on the menu, guaranteed. But people will have to find their own sticks for a bonfire... Oh, and if they're staying the night, they will have to pay some money for the privilege (not much, we need to figure out that detail, but it won't be more than £5 to cover heating bills etc., unless they've booked one of the rooms at Loudwater Farm (not many), and then the cost will be per room as normal).
And don't forget, everybody is welcome
love
Louise
Luthfi56 - Dec 13, 2005 - 10:15 PM
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It's a lovely idea, have just told my daughter about it (she 17), and of course the problem is that it clashes with a NYE party she is already 'booked' for....would it be a good idea to have these rare Subud youth events at times which DON'T quite so evidently clash?
Roboba - Dec 13, 2005 - 10:57 PM
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Roboba - Dec 13, 2005 - 10:59 PM
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Yes maybe a New Years Eve party on the 4th of March unless of course that is somebody's birthday in which case we'll just keep on searching, I personally have a very good feeling about the 7th of June! Come on people please stay real!
Luthfi56 - Dec 14, 2005 - 10:19 AM
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I imagine she can't be the only young person who will now have to choose between a very good NYE party she was already looking forward to, and the Subud Youth one. Whereas if you held the party sometime in the run-up to Xmas, or maybe later in January (which would cheer up a very dull month) there wouldn't be the inevitable clash.
I really don't see how I am not 'getting real' by pointing this clash out. There are inevitably going to be other Subud Youth who experience it on this occasion, and have to make possibly a quite painful choice. When I organised events as Central London secretary, and later on National Council, many years ago, it was a fundamental requisite to make sure they didn't clash with any major non-Subud events that people were likely to go to. After all, there are few enough people in Subud as it is, you don't really want to specifically ensure that you'll have less people attending than would otherwise be the case, and you don't want to present them with painful choices.
HarunKennedy - Dec 14, 2005 - 03:00 PM
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Hi Luthfi
I haven’t had as much fun reading a post in ages…
I’m 29 years old now. And my parents are still overly interested in the painful choices I have to make in life.. They are no doubt even interested in what I’ll be doing for New Year’s Eve. 
Quite sweet really.
Loudwater’s a New Year’s Eve event, organised with the explicit intention of getting Subudians together at such a nice time of year. Seeing in the New Year with fellow Subudians and the like, doing wholesome things, rather than witnessing other friends getting absolutely bladdered and feeling awful by 1am. As far as events that may appeal, there are lots of Youth/SICA activities in Britain being organised over the coming year. Although this Loudwater one is likely to be on par with a New York Experience!!! (NYE ), I am sure your daughter will have the opportunity to make it to others. If she’s interested, she should email Elias eliasbate@gmail.com or Louise l.s.harrington@qmul.ac.uk and watch this space.
Have a super NYE!
Harun.
MahmudHenry - Dec 14, 2005 - 06:53 PM
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I'm with Harun on this. It is all very well trying to make sure as many Subudians who want to come can attend, but what about those of us with no friends who want something to do New Years Eve? 
Roboba - Dec 14, 2005 - 07:09 PM
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My point is and was that a New Years is to be celebrated on New Years Eve, SYA has been organising several of these parties over the last few years so it is not as if this is the first time! and furthermore what about all of those, young or otherwise, that want to celebrate New Years Eve together with other Subud people on New Years eve? If somebody wants to celebrate any kind of national/public holiday with other Subud people one can always check with the several comittees and see what is going on before committing one's self to other events. If you don't want to do this then that is fine too but don't come moaning that we organize things on national/public holidays and that they clash with other non Subud events. I agree with Harun (now that's a first!) that it just a question of choices for each and everyone of us! And that is what I mean by 'staying!' real.
Luthfi56 - Dec 15, 2005 - 06:49 PM
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Haven't had so much fun for ages? You should get out more, Harun, lol. Anyway she'd like to make it, just unfortunate that it clashes with what was already billed as a big event in her social life here, and anyway ALSO it's about time I got out of the way and let HER get on with posting, not that she ever does (though she is a very committed latihan attender). Anyways also if you wanted to badger her, the email address is dalianidixon@hotmail.com (Oh, and BTW, is there some quiet sideroom at Loudwater where old gits like me can quietly stare at the ceiling and smoke their pipes while Yoof does its fing? Just need somewhere to park me carcass after driving her to Loudwater....a stroll around the grounds will be nice of course...can't do that all night tho....probably repair to local hostelry and ..what was it Harun?..oh yes, 'get bladdered.' 41 years in Subud and progress indeed.)
HarunKennedy - Dec 15, 2005 - 07:05 PM
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You do set yourself up for a tease Luthfi.
It's worth pointing out here that last New Year's event, at the Amadeus Centre in London, had plenty from the 40 - 140 age range.
It might be being organised by Youth and SICA, who are run by 'young' people at present, but its open to absolutely everybody.
I think it might be worth throwing away some of your assumptions about how things are these days, and come along. You're more than welcome Luthfi.
P.S.
To properly quote myself from above:
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I haven’t had as much fun reading a post in ages…
On such a note, something completely aside and to compete with you in the idiosyncracy stakes - this post (its a shame it was this one), is my 200th post on Subud Life since becoming a member back in July 2002.
I am now a Knight of the 7th Level:
http://subudlife.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=74&sid=7e7d810d19b8c5d796ac56b9cc754732
Luthfi56 - Dec 15, 2005 - 11:08 PM
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Did you notice any difference? Need a greater hat (sorry, must be helmet) size now? Anyway thanks very much for the invitation. I hope we can get there.
gonzo - Dec 16, 2005 - 01:37 PM
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Hey guys,
I was just wondering to whether at the loudwater NYE's party whether you drink alcohol or not? 
MahmudHenry - Dec 16, 2005 - 09:22 PM
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Now now Harun, I had that title a year and a half ago before you repeatedly raised the number of posts needed for it!
Anyway, you can't be a Knight because you're site admin! No mixing technical and user titles on the website
And anyway, the title is "Knight and Server of the 7th Level". Unless you've changed it again. But in case you aren't satisfied with giving yourself titles, I'll bestow upon you a special title for those who rewrite their own rules three times, from henceforth you may call yourself “Most Fidgety Gerrymanderer of the Third Degree”.
daliani - Dec 22, 2005 - 09:32 PM
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I feel a bit sheepish appearing now... I'm that 17 year old daughter that has been causing all the trouble. Sorry, my father doesnt have a lot of tact, and he enjoys putting up a fight.
The best thing you can do is take his comments with amusement.
"Yes maybe a New Years Eve party on the 4th of March unless of course that is somebody's birthday in which case we'll just keep on searching, I personally have a very good feeling about the 7th of June! Come on people please stay real!"
Roboba, I do apologise, but on the other hand it may be to your benefit if you dont make such a rash response in future, because even though he didnt say it with a lot of empathy, Luthfi was still making a point that needed to be taken into account.
Thank you dad for putting up my email address without my consent.
It seems that he's already stated that we intend to go... so I'm not sure why he was so persistent that I tell you all?
Oh well, an opportunity to say hello, I guess
hope you are all well and maybe I will see some of you on new years eve
Luthfi56 - Dec 23, 2005 - 10:51 PM
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'Sorry, my father doesn't have a lot of tact, and he enjoys putting up a fight.' Doh! Rumbled! Anyway I'm really looking forward to the evening, we should get there about 8 p.m., cos Daliani finishes work at 5 and we will leave at 6, then a 120 mile journey.
Roboba - Dec 23, 2005 - 11:34 PM
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Roboba, I do apologise, but on the other hand it may be to your benefit if you dont make such a rash response in future, because even though he didnt say it with a lot of empathy, Luthfi was still making a point that needed to be taken into account"
Dear Daliani,
No need to apologise, but I don't see how not making the response I did could be to my benefit. I truly believe that if there are certain dates, such as New Years Eve, that these should be celebrated on the appropriate date. Especially when there is a large group of people that want to celebrate it with you on that day. If there are people that don't want to participate on that particular date because they want to do something else or celebrate somewhere else than that is absolutely fine and I wish them the greastest time ever. People just shouldn't come moaning about not being able to attend certain events because they were/are otherwise engaged! As far as I can remember New Years Eve has always been on the 31st of December (please correct me if I'm wrong) and for the last eight years (the time I've been living in the UK) SYA/SICA have organised a New Years Eve Party! So it is not as if this was the first time! Like I said in my last post: "if Subudis want to hang out with other Subudis during public holidays it is very easy to enquire with the committees concerned and plan accordingly!"Life is full of choices and this is just another one. I hope you have a great and blessed Christmas and a Wonderful NYE party that will be the beginning of a great year.
Luthfi56 - Dec 28, 2005 - 09:33 AM
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Yes, well I think we're both right and both wrong. Although it was always the practice, when I was on Central London committee or National Council, to avoid very obvious clashes when organising Subud events (and I was vaguely remembering, in particular, that we had to avoid something to do with princess Di once..whether it was the wedding or something else I can't remember, it was many years before the funeral), on the other hand I forgot, when I posted, that we also always had a 'do' on NYE at Central London.
I remember now that we used to have a latihan from 12.45 pm through to 1.15 am, so you could see the New Year in that way....the idea mainly being, I believe, that you could receive about the coming year. Only I wouldn't recommend this, because, on the only occasion I participated (the 1967/1968 'bridging' latihan), I didn't feel very good in the latihan, and received that the year would be pretty awful.
Everyone else was 'yeah, man, it was really cool, I received strongly that it was going to be fantastic...'....er...well...that year Soviet tanks invaded Czechoslovakia and snuffed out the Prague Spring, and I had a ghastly year (as usual, lol).
Anyways, Roboba, you are quite right, 'it's not as if this is the first time.'
Luthfi56 - Jan 12, 2006 - 11:37 AM
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Somewhat late, may I say that this was a truly enjoyable event, and many thanks to those who set it up, and who were beavering around doing things like the washing-up also (Louisa springs to mind).
This was a really great party, a really enjoyable atmosphere, and it was so nice to see Yoof enjoying themselves...and of course, for me, to see my daughter chatting away with people her own age.....they all seemed to get on like a house on fire.
The old lags had a good time also.....amazing to see people I hadn't encountered for 20 years or more.
I shall remember the good feeling from this event, and the nice images in my mind, for many years to come.
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