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Post subject: People's experiences with their natural talent
 Posted: May 21, 2003 - 11:46 PM
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Jiwa Dancer
Joined: Feb 14, 2003
Posts: 19
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Hello everybody! (Dr. Nick Riviera voice)
I wondered what people's experiences re: their talents has been? I was told by ibu that my natural talent is in civil engineering. It's taken me a long while though to be able to accept it, and it hasn't been easy. How have people found following a specific path within their talent? Whether advised by ibu (and yes, I feel guilty for adding to her workload regarding this!!) or having tested it, if you receive something very general like, for example, that you are an artist, what do you try and do, pottery, painting, sculpture, etc., etc.? How have people found trying to follow this talent? I have decided upon my particular specialisation (geotechnical engineering academic, if that means anything to anyone) because that's what I'm most drawn to, and find most interesting and most fulfils what I want in my career. I'm really interested to find out about other people's experiences regarding this, so post away!! |
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Posted: May 22, 2003 - 01:38 AM
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Directed Jiwa
Joined: Feb 04, 2003
Posts: 33
Location: London
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Talent testing is a really nutty one. I've tested mine a few times with helpers, and it evolves!
It seems that my talent drama writing/ acting and directing. That's quite broad, but they are of course very related. I guess I am a dramatist then... I feel that I need to develop all of these areas, and do them all, which basically means enterprise/ projects.... and I also received to work with Subud members as far as possible.  ha ha
Talents take some time to grow of course; receiving that you're a born lawyer, when you've always worked as a pig farmer is not an easy one.
I know a guy who realised his talent was dancing - but only found out in middle age. There's little career prospect in that one, but that's not everything to a middle aged man, I guess.
I also know somebody who was told their talent categorically - twice! by Bapak himself, and it was something they had studied and enjoyed, but they didn't pursue it, which I find amazing. From what i've heard about the wise old fella, if he said jump, there was a loose skateboard heading for your ankles, or else a big lesson to be learned somewhere in jumping! Surely, if Bapak tells you to pursue one of your hobbies, you don't give it all up?!?
Well, I guess we should try to trust and rely on our own testing, huh?
Receiving is one thing, pursuing is quite another!!!  Keep it up y'all.
Lucas |
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Posted: Jun 11, 2006 - 04:24 PM
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Jiwa Walker
Joined: Sep 07, 2002
Posts: 10
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Hi Lucas,
Enjoyed our last meeting. Did you finish the work at Loudwater- that job on the outhouse
anyway.
I remember writing to Bapak back in the 60's vis talent and got - 'what is in keeping with your heart and mind.' was his answer.... ie feelings and what ya know. Bit wide alright...
And now I am taking up art (painting) guess I always enjoyed the drawing and was 'good' at it
at school as a boy. I take comfort in the fact that Monet started his painting at the age of 60-
before that he was a portrait painter.
So there is hope for me yet! Into Pastel big time at the moment- seeking to capture ‘movement
within movement’ if ya knows what I mean!
It is a deep spiritual experience where people are moved - not from the Nafsu- but from a
force beyond this world if you like- seen it when I was a boy in Pathe News in the 40's when
China occupied Tibet. There was this Buddhist Monk who pored petrol on himself and sat
down to burn to death in protest. He began to rock back and fore, back and fore, til he keeled
over and died- Ok Horrid! But in that last pang of movement from/in/by/through him- I saw
the eternal! So his effort was not wasted in me anyway.
Seen it since too in several people and if I could capture this movement on paper- and have
seen it captured on paper too- then there could be real healing even from the viewing...Healing
in the wider context- healing of the soul- raising of the spirit- a shift in deep awareness- and
influence in/from/within life itself. Meaning I guess, is what comes from such awareness.
Anyway Hello there fellah! |
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Posted: Jun 15, 2006 - 04:27 AM
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Directed Jiwa
Joined: Sep 07, 2004
Posts: 31
Location: Wellington, NZ
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| Ooo, I like this one! Confusing though it may be. I haven't tested this in a long time, though it would probably be helpful to do again, as I'm sure it's an evolving one. The last time I specifically tested for my 'true talent,' it was to be really, really happy. Or rather, to find happiness in everything and to exude that to the rest of the world. Which sounds like a fantastic talent but it doesn't seem to be much of a money-maker. However when I was moving to New Zealand to go to school and was trying to figure out what I should study, it was very clear that my path lay somewhere in film...at least at the moment. So maybe I'll be a happy filmmaker or something. That wouldn't be too bad. |
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Posted: Mar 05, 2007 - 01:31 AM
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Jiwa Walker
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Posts: 6
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Posted: Mar 17, 2007 - 04:37 PM
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Jiwa Walker
Joined: Jun 18, 2003
Posts: 13
Location: Britain
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(Hi Lorenzo!) I have been fortunate in that as I was growing up, I was never forced to worry about what were my talents, or what I should do once I grew up, because I always knew what I wanted to do: be a scientist. I was interested in science, especially physics, I was good at it at school, and I naively hoped that I would eventually be like Einstein. Skip forward through several years: I completed my Ph.D. a year ago and I am now a contract research scientist (a.k.a. a postdoc), working on the mechanics of the cytoskeleton in eucaryotic cells, as part of a government funded research project. As a postdoc, I am quite junior on the academic ladder - it is still hard to get a permanent job, but luckily western governments are spending increasing sums on science because conventional wisdom considers it good for the economy, so there are plenty of short-term contracts, provided I am prepared to move from place to place, as they appear and disappear.
Much has changed for me since I was starting out in my studies. Inevitably, science is no longer my hobby or my object of affection, but merely what occupies me for most of my waking hours. These days I often have ideas about trying something new, things that seem more readily rewarding than science, but I have realised that anything worth doing (and worth other people's money) is going to take a lot of time and effort. I am also increasingly aware of what my talents are, what abilities I am developing, and what is undeveloped, or what I am not good at. For example, I am much better at communicating my ideas than before my Ph.D., and I am more aware of my audience and how best to deal with them. I am better at lots of things related to my work: networking, staying motivated, listening to other people, maintaining good relationships with my colleagues, teaching. I also know my limitations better, and what I can realistically achieve in a reasonable time. Some things I am still poor at, e.g. assimilating large amounts of information, so I have never been very good at learning languages... or chemistry for that matter. I can appreciate that there are so many other things that I would never have been good at, and less now than ever, such as working with people in other specialised ways.
In no sense have I yet 'made it'. I am not close to getting a permanent job, let alone achieving anything that I would expect any of the non-scientists reading this post to be impressed with. When I go to conferences, I am reminded that there are countless thousands of people in the same situation as me; we are truly like insects, competing with each other and trying to do something to get ahead of the crowd. That is why I think that beyond a certain point, you have to stop worrying about what your talent is, and just be realistic about your options. In most fields, it takes so many years from developing whatever talent you have to becoming successful, that you cannot afford to waste time before you have even started. Besides, pursuing your 'talent' is probably like being married: you are unlikely to hold on to the romantic notions that you had at the beginning.
Anyway, having written all this, I would like to hear from anyone who is also an academic scientist. If there are a few, perhaps we could get together.
I still have little awareness of the fruit of the latihan in my work, and if anyone has anything to share on this theme, I'd be interested in hearing it. (Perhaps I should start a new thread.) My attitude to my work is more materialistic than ever - even now that I am studying a biological system, any notion of life forces is laughable. |
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