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Post subject: Old and New Testament stories - interpretations.  PostPosted: Oct 01, 2006 - 06:52 PM
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Hi all,

I was looking for Bible stories that has had some type of interpretation by Bapak - what's your favourite / most memorable? Or for that matter your own receiving of a meaning.

Oliver.
 
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MahmudHenry
Post subject:   PostPosted: Oct 05, 2006 - 11:22 AM
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The ones I remember him using are of Adam, Abraham, Moses and Jesus. The ones about Adam don't bare a very close resemblance to what you read in the bible.

For Abraham, which is my favourite, he tells the story of Sarah having a child, and God asking Abraham to sacrifice the child. He follows the Quaranic version, whereby instead of a voice of God booming and telling Abraham to stop, (Your faith is enough!), Abraham closes his eyes and goes through with it, only to find he has slaughtered a sheep instead of his son. Bapak's interpretation is that Abrahams son was born with an animal soul, and so this sacrifice represents the cutting out of the animal soul so his son could have a proper human soul.

For Moses, he describes the parting of the waters as the first time human beings could separate out and tell the difference between right and wrong, which of course is why Moses brought the law. This relates back to Adam. I hear that the fruit Adam ate was not really about good and evil, but rather it gave him the means to live in this world. So right and wrong were only meaningful to human beings with Moses.

Then comes Jesus, who apparently is green, which represents not being affected by anything. I think Bapak described the walking on water as Jesus being above the feelings which normally affect people. This of course contrasts with Moses, who was only able to part the waters. Jesus rose above them, even when there was a storm.
 
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Englishman
Post subject:   PostPosted: Oct 05, 2006 - 10:44 PM
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Oh, boy how did this thread come to be on introduce yourself?! Doh.
Thx Henry for that.
 
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Perhaps a moderator can move the thread to the correct forum?

Hmm, the interpretation of the Garden of Eden story I thought made sense was that: eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil refers to the development of man's critical reasoning mind and ego with which he decides for himself - by the sweat of his brow - what is good for him and what is not. Before that, he did not have to deduce what was good, he knew it intuitively. This is why it was called a "fall from grace", grace being that state of consciousness in which you know what is right, you can apprehend the truth directly. From this perspective, man's evolution started with his fall from grace.
 
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