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| What percentage of your friends are in Subud? |
| Nearly all are in Subud (80-100%) |
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5% |
[ 1 ] |
| Mostly Subud friends (60-80%) |
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17% |
[ 3 ] |
| About half and half (40-60%) |
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35% |
[ 6 ] |
| Not that many (20-40%) |
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5% |
[ 1 ] |
| Next to none (0-20%) |
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35% |
[ 6 ] |
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| Total Votes : 17 |
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Post subject: Subud vs. Non-Subud Friends
 Posted: Apr 08, 2004 - 08:22 AM
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Jiwa Dancer
Joined: Apr 02, 2004
Posts: 23
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Subud friend = an opened person who regularly does latihan and that you openly call a friend.
(My lust for knowledge has yet to be quenched. Ha ha!) |
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Posted: Apr 08, 2004 - 10:39 AM
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7th Level Skirter
Joined: Apr 18, 2003
Posts: 160
Location: Britain
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We were chatting about this one in the "Subud Singles" thread. I hear that there are some tight knit subud communities out there, but I've yet to encounter one. Anyway, we're brothers and sisters, not simply 'friends'  |
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Posted: Apr 08, 2004 - 08:37 PM
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Site Admin
Joined: Apr 20, 2004
Posts: 18
Location: netherlands
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where is the option for friends who aren't in subud, who aren't interested in being opened and doing the latihan, but are surrendered nonetheless and happy and light and whatever else is associated with spirituality and esoteric experiences these days? where's the option for that? 'cause i have loads of those friends.
why do i have to choose black or white when there's the different shades of gray and RGB and CMYK on offer? |
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Posted: Apr 11, 2004 - 04:14 PM
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Site Admin
Joined: Sep 25, 2002
Posts: 60
Location: Copenhagen
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| I voted half half, but it is not easy this question.... becasue I know loads of people who are not in subud and whom I could call friends, but fact is that most of my really really realllllllyyyyyyyyyy good friends, people I would tell everything are in SUbud. And I do tell them everything because they truly understand everything about me (being opened) |
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Post subject: The comfort of our own kind - beleifs an all.
Posted: Aug 04, 2004 - 06:17 PM
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Jiwa Walker
Joined: Feb 12, 2004
Posts: 10
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I did just want to have a giggle at yours and the other post-it-note inteligentsias expense Ryan, but youve got the better of me, youve roused issues in me, contentions between my beleifs and the beleifs of others - subud and non subud - i think you're refreshing yet aimless yet curious yet obviouse yet seductive, and you've got me Ryan, i have to admit you've pulled me in.
I only have Subud friends, though i never orchestrated such a dimension, and lets be sure to mention, my atheistic friend, that it is by no means an elitist or ostracizing attitude towards average people, er, i mean, non subud people, i operate from the same fundamental need of any social network - common ground. I have formed the friendships i have because these people reflect my own beleifs and so reinstate their righteousness, er, i mean, because i have a spirtiual affinity with them. In them i meet with kindness, love, respect, integrity and effort - both of the mind and the heart - and they wear their souls like a blush in their cheeks - and this is what really strikes me, they approach me with the kindness of their souls - is it presumptuous to say such a thing - i dont care - i know the difference betwenn true kindness and love and that of martrydom, that self serving, and self sustaining affection of the lonely and desperate. I know the difference between a happy person and an unhappy one - and, am i qualified to be a judge of such objectives - yes, i have to be, for without judgement man would be paraylsed - it is the fuel of the fire, the will behind the word, the wanting behind the wish, and the truth behind the prayer that matters. Every man judges, and often - he only judges to judge himself better. You know whether you judge from virtue or else where. Not that im suggesting i sustain virtue in my judgements, i live many a day amongst the elsewhere of this world. It is a human failing and i am only human - Subud is only a human organisation. If i put my hand in the fire it will burn - or will it? Tell me, what informed your selection of friends, what is the glue with which you hold yourselves together? Is it not the comfort you find in your own kind? A mutual numbness to contradiction? Even if you conduct your life through a succesion of intellectual contentsions - is that not your contract? - to play with ideas as if they were toys, to break them apart and see how they work! If you have no beleifs then you will suffer no pain in trying to disprove them, you will not be dislodging the stone that is your life from perfect stillness - how do you, my atheistic friend, extricate your beleifs - so as to challenge yourself? I know i am veering of the subject, but i feel you are constantly asking questions, trying to upturn, and provoke, as well as approaching Subud, and those that practice the latihan as if they have to validate themselves through argument - and that seems to be the impetus of your inquisition - you search for debate, for debates sake - i wish you would ask a question because you truely seek the awnser.
What are your beleifs anyway? or are you that most frightend of all creatures - the "agnostic"?
P.S I like you Ryan.  |
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Posted: Jun 09, 2006 - 08:18 AM
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Directed Jiwa
Joined: Sep 07, 2004
Posts: 31
Location: Wellington, NZ
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Henry wrote:
We were chatting about this one in the "Subud Singles" thread. I hear that there are some tight knit subud communities out there, but I've yet to encounter one. Anyway, we're brothers and sisters, not simply 'friends'
Absolutely, Henry! I've just moved from the US to New Zealand, and at the recent national congress, I kept receiving that I was not going to be allowed to hold back or distance myself from my Subud brothers and sisters, because they were my family! I've moved to a new country all by myself, and my Subud family is the only one I have! (And it's a great one!)
Also, though I haven't been to Christchurch yet, I know there are about 80 members there, and a bunch of them all live on this one street they call the 'cult-de-sac." |
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